Chapter 15: Q&A / Discussions

[Elvis]

I'm good with it.

[Brian]

The creature's attack on Melethos is the first attack this day on him. Any further attacks against him will be at a disadvantage until the end of his next turn.

Which, unfortunately, is coming up next.

[Dave W.]

immediate effect: Thul has disadvantage on Charisma checks and Charisma saving throws

You mean he doesn't normally?

[Jeff]

Look at you, trying to enact a burn that Adamant never would.

[Elvis]

Well played.

I approve.

[Elvis]

Is it safe to assume that when the second bug appeared, those that see it, shouted a warning?

[Jeff]

Nope, no shouted warning, but it's within Adamant's light and just moving through the trees. So you guys are aware of it but wouldn't have good eyes on it yet. And Thul might have heard the sounds of Sem's spell. So he's not...unaware of the second threat.

[Elvis]

Good enough.

[Jeff]

Apr 20, 2018 8:59:01 GMT -4 Elvis said:

Where is the wall of fire exactly?

This is the 3rd combat. And the 3rd time you have dropped a wall of fire so that it impacts Thul.

Thul was about to engage bug #2, just as the searing wall of flames cut him off.

Welcome to sorcerers. They use the same spells a lot because they don't have a big list. To avoid conflicts, characters must talk about strategic battle points outside of battle.

I have the map ready and I'll post it a bit later. Since Darren was bad and didn't specify exactly what squares he's choosing, I've chosen for him. It's precisely around the creature, allowing only 1 5-square on each side of it to also be within the wall.

[Darren]

Apr 20, 2018 8:59:01 GMT -4 Elvis said:

Where is the wall of fire exactly?

This is the 3rd combat. And the 3rd time you have dropped a wall of fire so that it impacts Thul.

Thul was about to engage bug #2, just as the searing wall of flames cut him off.

It's surrounding the enemy. Yeah, it's a thing Kal does, and Thul hasn't fought with him enough to know that. But you've gotta admit, doing 5d8 damage a minimum of two times to a tough enemy is not a bad way to go, and Thul (and everyone else) could always prepare a reaction for if the bug bursts through the wall of fire to attack him. If the bug doesn't come through the wall, he'll just sit in there and burn, so either way we win.

Most of Kal's damaging spells are better suited to groups of enemies. When we fight one on one like this, surrounding them with a Wall of Fire is generally his only big damage option.

[Darren]

Apr 20, 2018 9:32:18 GMT -4 Jeff said:

Apr 20, 2018 8:59:01 GMT -4 Elvis said:

Where is the wall of fire exactly?

This is the 3rd combat. And the 3rd time you have dropped a wall of fire so that it impacts Thul.

Thul was about to engage bug #2, just as the searing wall of flames cut him off.

Welcome to sorcerers. They use the same spells a lot because they don't have a big list. To avoid conflicts, characters must talk about strategic battle points outside of battle.

I have the map ready and I'll post it a bit later. Since Darren was bad and didn't specify exactly what squares he's choosing, I've chosen for him. It's precisely around the creature, allowing only 1 5-square on each side of it to also be within the wall.

I simul-posted with Jeff.

Sorry, but yes, what you are saying is what I intended. A 20' diameter around the bug leaves one square on each side of him (so not enough room to move to one side and not get hurt) and that's what I was going for.

[Elvis]

It's a great use of the spell and nicely placed.

As Thul tho, it seems very suspicious that 3 out of 3 times the wall of fire has (or will) cause him harm.

That being said, since Thul is last and the wall appears before he gets there, he will adjust his plan accordingly.

I assume the wall is 5' wide and encircling the big in a ring?

[Darren]

That is correct.

In general, I try very hard not to hit any allies with any of Kal's spells.

[Elvis]

Sounds good. I will post my round soon.

Hopefully Thul can avoid the flames this time.

[Jeff]

The wall itself is 1 ft. thick but 20 feet in diameter. The creature occupies 4 squares. There are technically 8 squares adjacent to the creature but within the wall. Crossing into the ring, of course, subjects anything to the damage right away.

[Dave B.]

Shorak did not fire his bolt yet. I posted early with a readied action, on Shorak's next turn, to attack the bug if it makes a melee attack against an ally. He'll still miss, but it won't happen until the bug goes. Just sayin'. a

[Jeff]

Sorry, the timing of your post threw me off. But'm also confused: the roll you reference here (an 11), was for the Ready action in round 4?

Apr 19, 2018 23:31:15 GMT -4 Dave B. said:

I'm posting this now, since I'm sure everyone will have gone well before I can post again on Friday night.

Seeing the first creature fall under Adamant's hammer, Shorak turns his attention to the new arrival. He takes a bead on the creature and waits to see where it will go. If it move to attack any of his companion, Shorak will let loose the bolt.

And miss. The roll was 11. Shorak readies an action, attack the second insectioid if it makes a melee attack against any ally.

As Belarin hasn't gone yet in round 4, Shorak hasn't yet taken the Readied action. I'm just lost now on when your roll was supposed to take place.

[Darren]

Apr 22, 2018 8:57:42 GMT -4 Jeff said:

• Creature's Dexterity saving throw vs. Kal's spell: 22 (success, half damage) / 13 fire damage to creature

Jeff, I think we've had this discussion before, but this isn't right. We determined that the Dexterity saving throw only applies when the wall first appears. Any damage after that, if remaining within 10' of the wall or passing thru it, is 5d8 with no save. The save, we had decided, was representative of being able to quickly get out of the way right as it springs into existence. Any other time is a voluntary movement and therefore was not subject to a Dexterity save.

[Elvis]

I think Thul's faerie fire spell is gone. He probably failed the concentration check when he got stung.

Either way, Thul will end the spell.

[Jeff]

Elvis, got it. Yeah, I should have him make his earlier save. But if he's ending it now anyway, it'll be gone.

Darren, I do remember some of this, so I looked it up again to be refreshed. So you're right: passing through the wall or ending within its hot side does not allow a save. But it won't take that initial 12 damage because Kal placed the Wall "around the creature" not within its actual space. And in that case it wasn't subject to damage at all right away. That only happens if Kal places the wall in such a way that it occupies a space a creature is already in.

So, 26 fire damage now instead of 13 (since no save is allowed) but -12 fire damage from when the wall appeared.

Make sense?

Not counting whatever happens right now, which I'll get to soon.

[Darren]

Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

Sorry about the metagaming. I would have done that as a quick out of turn shout and then posted my action in a separate post, but I wasn't sure when I'd get back in front of a computer so I just combined it all together.

[Elvis]

Clarification on Thunderwave.

I thought it impacts everyone around the caster in the range...

[Darren]

It's a 15 foot cube, so it would be everything 15' in front of Kal which in this case was just the bug. I do often have trouble targeting it without hitting an ally.

[Dave B.]

Apr 21, 2018 9:08:39 GMT -4 Jeff said:

Sorry, the timing of your post threw me off. But'm also confused: the roll you reference here (an 11), was for the Ready action in round 4?

Apr 19, 2018 23:31:15 GMT -4 Dave B. said:

I'm posting this now, since I'm sure everyone will have gone well before I can post again on Friday night.

Seeing the first creature fall under Adamant's hammer, Shorak turns his attention to the new arrival. He takes a bead on the creature and waits to see where it will go. If it move to attack any of his companion, Shorak will let loose the bolt.

And miss. The roll was 11. Shorak readies an action, attack the second insectioid if it makes a melee attack against any ally.

As Belarin hasn't gone yet in round 4, Shorak hasn't yet taken the Readied action. I'm just lost now on when your roll was supposed to take place.

Yes, after Belarin's turn and the roll is for the readied action, if it should be triggered. I was just noting that it was going to miss regardless.

[Jeff]

Apr 24, 2018 9:15:00 GMT -4 Darren said:

Once he has confirmed that his companions are in one piece, Kal mutters, "It seems we cannot help ourselves. Saving the world seems to be our lot." Moving to the woman, Kal extends his hand in greeting. "I believe we've earned at least the right to know your name?"

Kal's got his hood up still, yeah? And with his cloak around him, his dragonmark is not evident, yes?

[Darren]

No, I didn't specify, but Kal will pull down his hood to talk to the woman. The Dragonmark is evident, though, since he just used it a moment earlier.

[Jeff]

Can you tweak your post, in that case? It gets confusing when actions are only accounted for in this thread.

[Darren]

Apr 24, 2018 11:50:31 GMT -4 Jeff said:

Can you tweak your post, in that case? It gets confusing when actions are only accounted for in this thread.

You got it, dude!

[Jeff]

May 1, 2018 9:53:36 GMT -4 Dave W. said:

"Thank you, Soranda." Adamant makes a mental note to give the pouch to Kal later.

Still he tucks it into his pack as best he can; the axe head sticking out the top. He joins the group moving down the trail.

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so can we just add what's in the purse to group funds or is it going to be more complicated?

But actually that does remind me.... I thought I might have brought this up already, but now I can't be sure. The party's bank funds are...not on your. They're in the Kundarak bank. You only have what you have on you. That said, Belarin was able to liquidate the valuables from Branash's stash. So what I'll do (soon) is divide the "bank" funds into two halves.

Can you tell me how much you'd like to keep stored away safely with Kundarak, and how much you want on you (for Last Chance purposes and perhaps other unknown Xen'drik encounters)? Then I'll place the non-bank amount in the Bag of Holding.

At present 1,060 is in the party fund. How much did you want available outside the bank and in the party's possession?

[Darren]

Kal's sheet already lists how much he has on his person. I'm good with what he's got.