Chapter 8: Q&A / Discussions

[Jeff]

Oh, I'm used to Darren's slander.

In any case, I can't find the rule at the moment, but yes, I believe if you're affected by the same exact condition, you don't have to roll against each instance of it. But you do have to roll separate for different conditions.

[Darren]

I blame the dice roller for everything.

[Mike]

Excuse the lengthy inner dialogue. Belarin had a "Caves of Androzani" moment, which will make sense to the Doctor Who fans.

Adric?

[Brian]

I don't know what the big discussion is about. It's very obvious that Condign's six points of damage will kill the draco-boney-lichy thing and end the encounter. (Not that a 20 would even hit the thing, but I'll blame that on the dice roller too.)

[Darren]

Okay, guys. If that hit, Syrdan will have done about 90 hit points of damage to the creature already. Little help, please ...

Hate. Dice. Roller. So. F'ing. Much!!!!!!

[Brian]

Mike:

Okay, guys. If that hit, Syrdan will have done about 90 hit points of damage to the creature already. Little help, please ...

Hello, didn't you see the above? Condign might have done six points of damage! Count 'em. Six! Puleez!

[Dave W.]

May 18, 2011 17:39:42 GMT -4 Brian said:

Mike:

Okay, guys. If that hit, Syrdan will have done about 90 hit points of damage to the creature already. Little help, please ...

Hello, didn't you see the above? Condign might have done six points of damage! Count 'em. Six! Puleez!

Yeah and I was good for 32 last round! Woot! I guess the draco-skel isn't a minion...

[Ken]

Nicely done, folks. <Invoke Shemp>Lemmeattim lemmeattim!</Dispel Shemp>

May 18, 2011 22:43:24 GMT -4 Joe said:

Get the critical hit...get the crappy damage role...if it isn't one thing, it's another...lol!

No worries there, Joe! Critical hit = max damage. Huzzah!

[Dave B.]

Yay! I'm helping. As long as you guys keep doing stuff that gives Shorak combat advantage, he gets to roll his extra sneak attack damage.

Unfortunately, he only has a few powers that are going to be useful against the bone dragon.

[Mike]

May 19, 2011 0:55:49 GMT -4 Dave B. said:

As long as you guys keep doing stuff that gives Shorak combat advantage, he gets to roll his extra sneak attack damage.

Thanks for the reminder. More damage is good, we'll try to keep that in mind!

[Ken]

Dave,

In a friend's campaign, I have a druid/fighter who has a druid at-will power that grants combat advantage on the target every round. He would be Shorak's best friend.

[Jeff]

Mike, I need a plan B from you.

If, during this round, Syrdan shifts 1 square (as he's doing), but before he can attack gets pushed 1 square back away from the bone dragon, what would be Syrdan's your action? If he shifts 1 square to get closer again, that would be a second move action and then he wouldn't be able to attack. So I need to know what your choice would be.

Thanks.

[Mike]

Besides cursing out the big guy for being a cheapshot artist with his wretched immediate interrupt?

If he's moved somewhere within melee range, he won't move back, and just attacks.

If he's moved 1 square out of melee range, he shifts 1 square back to where he was, and doesn't attack. He doesn't have any ranged attacks that are worth a darn, and keeping in melee with the big guy is more important at this point.

If he's moved more than 1 square, not sure yet.

[Jeff]

May 19, 2011 13:08:46 GMT -4 Mike said:

Besides cursing out the big guy for being a cheapshot artist with his wretched immediate interrupt?

Not going to deny that! But give ol' bony a break; he's got an entire party of adventurers to manage on his turn. He's got to have one or two immediate interrupts built in.

Thanks.

[Mike]

So give the poor widdle solo a break?

Um, no.

[Dave W.]

I'm dying to see what Boney's "I'm bloodied but now I get to use my Power of Party Slayage!!" power is.

Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't say "dying" in this context...

[Jeff]

Okay, so four of you are stunned for a round and Adamant's become a chew toy.

I'd like to point out that despite this, this fight is going amazingly fast, all things considered. You guys don't see it as much, but as I crunch the numbers for attacks, I'm finding those minor bonses to defenses and occasional bonuses on attack rolls really have mattered. Without Adamant's Divine Challenge, for example, Tangat would have been stunned again this round. They've made the difference.

And Mike, that sunblade sure was a good choice for a starting magic item. Being able to use radiant damage even on an opportunity attack really helps.

[Dave W.]

May 19, 2011 17:26:39 GMT -4 Jeff said:

To be clear:  For round 10, the following people are stunned and therefore unable to act (except for some minimal free action dialogue, if you want it):

Adamant
Condign
Belarin
Streko

this was not what I meant by a stunning flanking maneuver!

That was a good round on both sides.

[Jeff]

Agreed, Dave. I'm enjoying the dynamics of these elite and solo fights.

[Darren]

Jeff, is it possible to voluntarily NOT use a secondary effect of a power? In other words, Kal has powers that, if they hit, push a target. Could he choose to not push the target?

Second, if he did push a target, and pushing that target would push it into allies, what would the effect be?

[Jeff]

Darren, sure thing. You can opt out of a secondary effect, I see no issues with that.

As for pushing into allies, generally speaking, no:

Forced movement can’t move a target into a space it couldn’t enter by walking. The target can’t be forced into an obstacle or made to squeeze into a space.

But I imagine some powers may exist that have special rules with that.

[Mike]

Much as I hate doing this, Syrdan shouldn't be able to shift 4 squares to follow Ol' Boney.

The attack Syrdan got was a melee basic attack, which came from his opportunity attack. So he doesn't get the benefit of shifting, which comes from the use of Bond of Pursuit power.

[Jeff]

Ahh, for some reason I was thinking the Bond of Pursuit was still in effect, but yeah, that's only if he used it in the same round, right? It's not enough to just use it once. Okay, adjusting...

[Mike]

He never got to use Bond of Pursuit. That was the attack that got foiled by the immediate interrupt of the tail slap.

[Jeff]

Right.

My website (which hosts the pictures) seems to be having issues at the moment, so give me a bit to update the map.

[Jeff]

Okay, map updated.

[Mike]

Sorry ... just realized the big guy should've taken an additional 6 points of damage from Syrdan this past round.

Gotta love the Avenger's Censure class feature.

If your oath of enmity target moves away from you willingly, you gain a bonus to damage rolls against the target equal to 2 + your Dexterity modifier (total 6) until the end of your next turn.

[Brian]

Mike:

Nicely done, Brian.

You're the man with the hot die at the moment. That's why I opted for an encounter power rather than start with a daily power. Next round, however, I will begin using my big guns. If everyone can get within 10 squares, a heal is on the way. Plus, Dave W., Adamant is going to get an extra heal.

[Mike]

I wouldn't say so much "hot die" as "I get extra rolls". The oath of enmity was one of the main reasons I wanted to play an avenger. Put them on a single opponent and they will beat that opponent down hard.

It's why I got so frustrated with the battle against Krez. Syrdan still hadn't touched his daily powers against him, or most of his encounters. I don't know if we would've beaten him if Syrdan had gotten into melee with him, but he could've worked him really bad.

Switching topics ... Ken, "Let's show this bony muffin how we do things in Khorvaire."

Sounds awfully familiar ...

[Jeff]

May 20, 2011 11:49:13 GMT -4 Mike said:

Sorry ... just realized the big guy should've taken an additional 6 points of damage from Syrdan this past round.

Got it!